ras
08-08 10:06 AM
Good job analysing this particular issue. Appreciate ur patience in sharing with others.
The contents of this postings are based on what I have read from various Lawyer's website and my lawyer's suggestions.
Multiple I-485 Fillings Scenario:
1. Two I-485 for the with the same primary applicant
Case a: One I-140/I-485 Pending with another employer and one I-140/I-485 to be filed in July with the current employer.
Case b: One I-140/I-485 Pending due to substituted labor (and cannot be expedited because premium processing not available). Another I-485 to be filed based on approved I-140 (on one's own labor). Both from the same employer.
2. Two I-485 with different primary applicants (Primary on one and dependent on other)
Case a: I-140 for one is approved while other's pending
Case b: Both I-140 Approved
Case c: Both filling concurrently in June
Pros and Cons
Scenario 1, Case a: In this case there is a substantial risk that I-485 filed with first employer might lead to issues esp if I-140 is not approved. Thus is a good idea to file another one with current employer. (Pro)
Scenario 1, Case a: How can one Adjust the Status from two employer at the same time. (Con)
Scenario 1, Case b: Since first I-485 application is already filed and I-140's outcome is not known. It is a good idea to file another one as a fall back option. If one waits for the outcome of first I-140 and it is denied and then it will be too late to file another I-485 because dates might have retrogressed.
Scenario 2, Case a: One with the approved I-140 should file I-485 with other as dependent.
Scenario 2, Case b: I-485 for both is almost ensured and thus filling two will give added cover in case something happens. One might have a better priority date than other. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b: Job loss of one would still allow other with AC-21 benefits. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b:Only one of the two partners has to stick to the job description and other is free to pursue anything (including studies).
Scenario 2, Case c: Use I-140 Premium Processing on at least one application for added certainty.
Summary of Pros and Cons
Pros:
1. More flexibility as there are two applications to fall back on.
2. Only opportunity to file EAD/AP before retrogression kicks in.
3. Useful if I-140 is pending and outcome of it is unknown.
4. There are NO USCIS memos that prohibits such filling explicitly.
5. Many lawyers have recommended this as a best option.
6. It has been mentioned that USCIS cancels the second I-485 after approving the other. That makes this a hassle free option.
7. If there are issues with multiple filling one of the application can be withdrawn.
8. If later on it turns out two application is a norm and right thing to do and retrogression hits one has no one to blame but himself.
Cons:
1. Cost of two fillings (if paid by self)
2. There have been indications by lawyers that two fillings could lead to unnecessary delays and interviews.
3. Apart from delays there has been indications that USCIS might issue an
RFE and ask to choose one.
Conclusion
========
There is nothing wrong with two filings, worst case scenario could be an RFE from USCIS to choose one. Best case scenario is USCIS upon approving one cancels other. Two filings indeed give you a peace of mind and reduce risk during the process. It doesn't change the outcome (like your application will not be denied just because you have filed two). If a little delay is acceptable to you as a price you pay to reduce a bigger risk and added benefits then multiple filing is right thing to do.
The contents of this postings are based on what I have read from various Lawyer's website and my lawyer's suggestions.
Multiple I-485 Fillings Scenario:
1. Two I-485 for the with the same primary applicant
Case a: One I-140/I-485 Pending with another employer and one I-140/I-485 to be filed in July with the current employer.
Case b: One I-140/I-485 Pending due to substituted labor (and cannot be expedited because premium processing not available). Another I-485 to be filed based on approved I-140 (on one's own labor). Both from the same employer.
2. Two I-485 with different primary applicants (Primary on one and dependent on other)
Case a: I-140 for one is approved while other's pending
Case b: Both I-140 Approved
Case c: Both filling concurrently in June
Pros and Cons
Scenario 1, Case a: In this case there is a substantial risk that I-485 filed with first employer might lead to issues esp if I-140 is not approved. Thus is a good idea to file another one with current employer. (Pro)
Scenario 1, Case a: How can one Adjust the Status from two employer at the same time. (Con)
Scenario 1, Case b: Since first I-485 application is already filed and I-140's outcome is not known. It is a good idea to file another one as a fall back option. If one waits for the outcome of first I-140 and it is denied and then it will be too late to file another I-485 because dates might have retrogressed.
Scenario 2, Case a: One with the approved I-140 should file I-485 with other as dependent.
Scenario 2, Case b: I-485 for both is almost ensured and thus filling two will give added cover in case something happens. One might have a better priority date than other. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b: Job loss of one would still allow other with AC-21 benefits. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b:Only one of the two partners has to stick to the job description and other is free to pursue anything (including studies).
Scenario 2, Case c: Use I-140 Premium Processing on at least one application for added certainty.
Summary of Pros and Cons
Pros:
1. More flexibility as there are two applications to fall back on.
2. Only opportunity to file EAD/AP before retrogression kicks in.
3. Useful if I-140 is pending and outcome of it is unknown.
4. There are NO USCIS memos that prohibits such filling explicitly.
5. Many lawyers have recommended this as a best option.
6. It has been mentioned that USCIS cancels the second I-485 after approving the other. That makes this a hassle free option.
7. If there are issues with multiple filling one of the application can be withdrawn.
8. If later on it turns out two application is a norm and right thing to do and retrogression hits one has no one to blame but himself.
Cons:
1. Cost of two fillings (if paid by self)
2. There have been indications by lawyers that two fillings could lead to unnecessary delays and interviews.
3. Apart from delays there has been indications that USCIS might issue an
RFE and ask to choose one.
Conclusion
========
There is nothing wrong with two filings, worst case scenario could be an RFE from USCIS to choose one. Best case scenario is USCIS upon approving one cancels other. Two filings indeed give you a peace of mind and reduce risk during the process. It doesn't change the outcome (like your application will not be denied just because you have filed two). If a little delay is acceptable to you as a price you pay to reduce a bigger risk and added benefits then multiple filing is right thing to do.
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gc28262
09-16 06:28 PM
any updates about L I N Go?
Hello World Max for only $23.95 /month provides unlimited calls to india as per link posted earlier by some one on this thread.
https://www.lingo.com/shop/promotions/helloworldmax.jsp
However I see no details if they allow calls from cellphones too, as some one pointed out. That was the major difference between vonage and lingo.
if anyone has details, please share. Till that time, I would continue using tata trueroots for 2.9 cents a minute promo. Thanks!!!
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Hello World Max for only $23.95 /month provides unlimited calls to india as per link posted earlier by some one on this thread.
https://www.lingo.com/shop/promotions/helloworldmax.jsp
However I see no details if they allow calls from cellphones too, as some one pointed out. That was the major difference between vonage and lingo.
if anyone has details, please share. Till that time, I would continue using tata trueroots for 2.9 cents a minute promo. Thanks!!!
Lingo Unwired:
Make international calls from your cell phone.Get first 10 minutes free on every call to over 100 countries,then just pay dime a minute thereafter.
Rates: Click here to see rates.
Service Charge: $.79 per call
Register the phone numbers you would like to use with Lingo Unwired below. After you place your order, you will see a PIN code for each phone number.The code will be required for calls made from unregistered phone numbers.
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feedfront
09-13 12:49 AM
Hopefully it is not a complicated RFE...
Where is your case now? Any update?
Where is your case now? Any update?
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Bhargav Goswami
07-13 01:24 PM
I just watched clips that show how stridently "anti H1B" / "anti legal Indian Immigrant" Lou Dobbs is! We would be witihin our rights to boycott him and CNN.
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laborchic
11-06 06:07 PM
Sending my letters this evening. finished everything moments ago..
friends: This is the time to act. I havent yet used AC21 but god forbid if I have to use it in this economy I dont want to be in this mess.
Sorry for the folks who received denials and hope we come out this together..
friends: This is the time to act. I havent yet used AC21 but god forbid if I have to use it in this economy I dont want to be in this mess.
Sorry for the folks who received denials and hope we come out this together..
indio0617
01-12 05:29 PM
**Deleted the post**
Guys: That was old news from 2004... Just spotted it. Hope he really acts on it this year
Guys: That was old news from 2004... Just spotted it. Hope he really acts on it this year
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QB_man
02-29 04:06 AM
one update: after a month the consulate asked me for a scaned copy of my I-797 aproval. sent it to them the that very day. called them up two days later to confirm if they recieved it and if the processing was done? the answer was "yes we recieved it" and "sir, it will take time" .. has anyone been requested for a scanned copy of their 797 by Chennai or other consulate?
by the way my details:
petition approved: March 2006
transfer application: switched jobs
Interview : Chennai jan 28th
frustrating..
by the way my details:
petition approved: March 2006
transfer application: switched jobs
Interview : Chennai jan 28th
frustrating..
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Saralayar
01-08 01:08 AM
I am surprised to see this thread active this long. Earlier I have with help of Saralayar and other members have bring this point to attention. But at that time no one was supporting Idea.
I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.
Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD
(1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.
(@) Time should be considered only after getting GC
(3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS
So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.
The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.
Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also
Thanks
Core IV can consolidate the valueable points like this for the argument.
I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.
Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD
(1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.
(@) Time should be considered only after getting GC
(3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS
So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.
The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.
Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also
Thanks
Core IV can consolidate the valueable points like this for the argument.
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gcbeku
08-13 09:20 AM
Today we received our welcome notices. The PD on my application is correct but the PD on my wife's application is same as the receipt date. Is this normal for the dependent application?
Our applications were approved based on substitute labor. Our 485 is based on 140 with PD Aug 2006 but we have another substitute labor with PD Nov 2005. When I applied for 140 with PD Aug 2006, I added my wife as dependent. But in the substitute labor I am not sure if my wife was added.
Is there anything to worry or just ignore it?
Thank you
Check with your lawyers. It should be easy to get an amended approval notice or atleast a letter from USCIS that it is okay.
Our applications were approved based on substitute labor. Our 485 is based on 140 with PD Aug 2006 but we have another substitute labor with PD Nov 2005. When I applied for 140 with PD Aug 2006, I added my wife as dependent. But in the substitute labor I am not sure if my wife was added.
Is there anything to worry or just ignore it?
Thank you
Check with your lawyers. It should be easy to get an amended approval notice or atleast a letter from USCIS that it is okay.
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njboy
10-17 09:58 AM
havent you heard the saying-all publicity is good publicity..? by talking about this racist, all we are doing is generating buzz about his stupid program which goes on and on like a broken record about outsourcing and all that..lets NOT track statements made by him..let him say whatever he wants..he does not have any credibility anyway..like they say-dogs bark while the caravans pass by
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PD_Dec2002
06-29 02:15 PM
If your PD is current for the July bulletin, then your application has to reach on July 2nd which is a Monday.
If your application was to reach on Saturday, June 30, and if the mail room guy is working overtime (assuming that the hell has frozen over), then your application will be sent back soon enough. Of course, the mail room guy is not going to open it on the same day; he/she is only going to stamp the date. And then when they really open it (2, 3, 4 weeks from now), they will send it back to you.
If your application was to reach on Sunday, July 1st, and if the mail room guy is working overtime (assuming that the hell has frozen over AGAIN), then your application will be accepted.
But if either of the two things above happen, I am not sure that GC is going to be my priority since hell would have frozen over...and I believe that's where we currently are stuck! :-)
So just take a chill pill, guys, your lawyer should know that the application should reach between Monday, July 2nd and Tuesday, July 31st. The end date can change once the August bulletin comes out.
Thanks,
Jayant
If your application was to reach on Saturday, June 30, and if the mail room guy is working overtime (assuming that the hell has frozen over), then your application will be sent back soon enough. Of course, the mail room guy is not going to open it on the same day; he/she is only going to stamp the date. And then when they really open it (2, 3, 4 weeks from now), they will send it back to you.
If your application was to reach on Sunday, July 1st, and if the mail room guy is working overtime (assuming that the hell has frozen over AGAIN), then your application will be accepted.
But if either of the two things above happen, I am not sure that GC is going to be my priority since hell would have frozen over...and I believe that's where we currently are stuck! :-)
So just take a chill pill, guys, your lawyer should know that the application should reach between Monday, July 2nd and Tuesday, July 31st. The end date can change once the August bulletin comes out.
Thanks,
Jayant
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thakurrajiv
09-26 05:17 PM
Trend chart doesnt give you shit...its just an overall count
I am referring to the PDF report - which clearly mentions that the numbers are for pending Employment based 485 applications. And yet people refer to this report and ask stupid questions or over-analyze it...
It seems like you are smarter than others or may be you have more insight.
How come total pre-adjudicated in the chart is exactly equal to total I-485 in the pdf ?
What exactly total in chart tool means ?
You might be convinced that you are right but stating that others are asking stupid questions is little too far.
I am referring to the PDF report - which clearly mentions that the numbers are for pending Employment based 485 applications. And yet people refer to this report and ask stupid questions or over-analyze it...
It seems like you are smarter than others or may be you have more insight.
How come total pre-adjudicated in the chart is exactly equal to total I-485 in the pdf ?
What exactly total in chart tool means ?
You might be convinced that you are right but stating that others are asking stupid questions is little too far.
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pappu
01-08 10:31 AM
Everyone that took part in the IV lobby day in September 2007 should get in touch with the lawmaker offices now and request them for letters. If you have met your local lawmaker offices through state chapters or on your own, it is time to visit them again for this request.
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shsharma_2000
02-06 11:40 AM
I went for H1B extn (approved Nov 2007) stamping on 15th Jan at New Delhi consulate. The person checking the papers at the outside window wrote - PIMS found on my appl form.
I checked with the VO after the interview if I will experience any PIMS delay. He replied he would not have been able to process my application without PIMS entry being found and everything is good.
Got the passport back on 18th.
I checked with the VO after the interview if I will experience any PIMS delay. He replied he would not have been able to process my application without PIMS entry being found and everything is good.
Got the passport back on 18th.
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shahuja
02-04 05:02 PM
Please keep on updating this thread. If you have got your passport or are still waiting. The information will help others.
Thank You.
Today 23rd day..and still waiting for PP..
H1B renewal at New Delhi embassy..
singhv, are you also waiting for your pp ?? what is your case and status ?
Thank You.
Today 23rd day..and still waiting for PP..
H1B renewal at New Delhi embassy..
singhv, are you also waiting for your pp ?? what is your case and status ?
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gimme_GC2006
08-19 10:50 AM
To xyz2009:
Congratulations on getting approved. My wife traveleved to India in a similar situation. She left 2 days after the GC approval email. She returned yesterday on her H1B. I think the systems at the POE take time to reflect the new status. She was planning to inform the IO in case he/she asks about the GC approval - but they did not ask anything. Before she left, she spoke to a second level IO who said it was OK to travel and just to explain to the IO at POE in case it comes up. D-155 stamp is not done at POE.
Your wife can either use AP or H4.
to be precise, since your wife used H1B, officer may have just verified H1B(same with H4 ).
But if you use AP, they will send you to a different room, where they seem to be able access much more information. There they will see your entire information (like when 485 applied etc)..so at that point, officer will give you a welcome message and stamp the passport most likely.
Congratulations on getting approved. My wife traveleved to India in a similar situation. She left 2 days after the GC approval email. She returned yesterday on her H1B. I think the systems at the POE take time to reflect the new status. She was planning to inform the IO in case he/she asks about the GC approval - but they did not ask anything. Before she left, she spoke to a second level IO who said it was OK to travel and just to explain to the IO at POE in case it comes up. D-155 stamp is not done at POE.
Your wife can either use AP or H4.
to be precise, since your wife used H1B, officer may have just verified H1B(same with H4 ).
But if you use AP, they will send you to a different room, where they seem to be able access much more information. There they will see your entire information (like when 485 applied etc)..so at that point, officer will give you a welcome message and stamp the passport most likely.
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inderman
10-15 06:02 PM
Called one more time using the POJ method to NSC... This was probably the most fruitful call to NSC in the last 7-8 odd times i have called them.
Someone called Terry answered the call... Hats off to this lady...If there is a way i would want to recommend this lady for a promotion and make her the project manager for all the rest of the IOs who answer the call!!!
My case PD is 1/15/05, filed at TSC, transferred to NSC in Mar 08, applied AC 21 in Aug 08 and did biometrics in Feb 09.
Information i received on my case from this call:
1. This lady got my receipt#, checked details and history on my case, let me know that the case is preadjudicated (she defined preadjudication before that)
2. and then, told me that the case is NOT in storage area.
3. She mentioned that preadjudicated cases are held in an area called exams area and my case is currently on its way from exams area back to the officer who had preadjudicated my case earlier in Oct 2008.
4. She then checked my wife's file to see if that is also with my case just to make sure that file is not lost etc and confirmed that both files are together.
5. She also mentioned that nothing else needs to be done right now for my case as it is already on its way back to IO.
Thanks to know that there is atleast one person at NSC who understands what we are going thru' and is willing to atleast provide some details...
Someone called Terry answered the call... Hats off to this lady...If there is a way i would want to recommend this lady for a promotion and make her the project manager for all the rest of the IOs who answer the call!!!
My case PD is 1/15/05, filed at TSC, transferred to NSC in Mar 08, applied AC 21 in Aug 08 and did biometrics in Feb 09.
Information i received on my case from this call:
1. This lady got my receipt#, checked details and history on my case, let me know that the case is preadjudicated (she defined preadjudication before that)
2. and then, told me that the case is NOT in storage area.
3. She mentioned that preadjudicated cases are held in an area called exams area and my case is currently on its way from exams area back to the officer who had preadjudicated my case earlier in Oct 2008.
4. She then checked my wife's file to see if that is also with my case just to make sure that file is not lost etc and confirmed that both files are together.
5. She also mentioned that nothing else needs to be done right now for my case as it is already on its way back to IO.
Thanks to know that there is atleast one person at NSC who understands what we are going thru' and is willing to atleast provide some details...
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vnsriv
01-24 11:41 AM
I had the misfortune of travelling thru London in December on my way to Mumbai. After I purchased my tickets, I learnt that I need a transit visa (TV) for UK. (Who is going to tell them (UK) that they are no longer the center of attraction esp. if you have lived and worked in US). Anyway, as per the rules, you need a transit visa if you don’t have a valid US visa. (Note: If you have AP, and don’t have a valid visa, you still need a TV).
I went to their site and did all the research to get a TV. Good god Heavens! Has anyone filled out their painful form for a TV? Besides asking the usual details, they get extremely nosy. They want to know each and everything about you. Where you work, what money do you make, name of your wife, kids and their citizenship status, name of your father and mother and where they were born, their birth date, how much money you have and where the money is (stocks, bonds, CDS) etc. etc. While filling up the form I realized that, even my future father in law did not pose so many probing questions to me. (Please note: I don’t mind answering these silly questions for a regular visa, but for the damn TV, it is certainly overkill).
Anyway to cut the long story short. The regular cost of TV is/was $92. However, when I filled up the application form they were asking for $184. (The satisfaction of getting a good deal on the tickets was quickly evaporating). I assumed I must have made a mistake in thinking the cost to be $92 and reluctantly paid $184. Next it was time to fill the application for my wife and answer the idiotic questions again. You should have seen the “I will kill you right now” look on my wife’s face after I woke her up in the middle of night and asked details about her parents. After I filled up the form, to my surprise, now they were asking $274 for visa fees. It was already 2:00 am and I have no choice but to painfully enter my credit card details, hoping that they would realize the mistake in their recon process and would reimburse the difference. (Of course, I was only dreaming).
It is now almost the end of January and I have still now received any money from them. I have tried sending several email to the emb(ass)y, but none of their emails work. I get bounced email for all the emails that I have used. I have tried calling them and left messages and no one has called back. I have send emails to my credit card company and the people who processed the payment and none of them have been able to help me. There is a way to talk to someone in the emb(ass)y, but you need to dial a 900 number, which BTW costs $2.49 per minute. Throwing good money after bad is not an option.
I just wanted to share this experience with you and remind you of the pain ahead, if you are travelling thru UK and don’t have a valid US visa. Personally, even if they had charged me the regular $92, I will still use other options to travel next time. The amount of time wasted in filling the crappy application form, going to NY, (starting Dec doing your finger prints) is simply too much to handle. Visiting your motherland/fatherland is a very special occasion and all these intermediate steps certainly water down the “good feeling” that you experience during the days leading to your trip.
I haven’t given up my quest for a refund, but now, not only I want my money back I would like to bring back home the Koh-i-noor too.
It's very sad that you and your family had to go throught this. I was in the same boat two years back. They even fingerprint you during the transit and they have special baggage scan at India when you return. But you know what things have changed. No body cares now for them when they come to visit India. This December when I was at domestic airport(small city), the porter came to me rather than going to a firang lady. Reason : desis give more tips now, like give 100/200Rs and the goras pay 1 USD :) and they know the maths.
Other incident, before boarding , a firang missed her baggage tag and when security lady asked for it, this firang was fuming and said it's their mistake. Now this lady cop, in her simple English said, Madam, please get out of this line, go to security check again, and get the tags, otherwise you won't be able to board the plane.
No one treats them as VIP any more back in India.
I went to their site and did all the research to get a TV. Good god Heavens! Has anyone filled out their painful form for a TV? Besides asking the usual details, they get extremely nosy. They want to know each and everything about you. Where you work, what money do you make, name of your wife, kids and their citizenship status, name of your father and mother and where they were born, their birth date, how much money you have and where the money is (stocks, bonds, CDS) etc. etc. While filling up the form I realized that, even my future father in law did not pose so many probing questions to me. (Please note: I don’t mind answering these silly questions for a regular visa, but for the damn TV, it is certainly overkill).
Anyway to cut the long story short. The regular cost of TV is/was $92. However, when I filled up the application form they were asking for $184. (The satisfaction of getting a good deal on the tickets was quickly evaporating). I assumed I must have made a mistake in thinking the cost to be $92 and reluctantly paid $184. Next it was time to fill the application for my wife and answer the idiotic questions again. You should have seen the “I will kill you right now” look on my wife’s face after I woke her up in the middle of night and asked details about her parents. After I filled up the form, to my surprise, now they were asking $274 for visa fees. It was already 2:00 am and I have no choice but to painfully enter my credit card details, hoping that they would realize the mistake in their recon process and would reimburse the difference. (Of course, I was only dreaming).
It is now almost the end of January and I have still now received any money from them. I have tried sending several email to the emb(ass)y, but none of their emails work. I get bounced email for all the emails that I have used. I have tried calling them and left messages and no one has called back. I have send emails to my credit card company and the people who processed the payment and none of them have been able to help me. There is a way to talk to someone in the emb(ass)y, but you need to dial a 900 number, which BTW costs $2.49 per minute. Throwing good money after bad is not an option.
I just wanted to share this experience with you and remind you of the pain ahead, if you are travelling thru UK and don’t have a valid US visa. Personally, even if they had charged me the regular $92, I will still use other options to travel next time. The amount of time wasted in filling the crappy application form, going to NY, (starting Dec doing your finger prints) is simply too much to handle. Visiting your motherland/fatherland is a very special occasion and all these intermediate steps certainly water down the “good feeling” that you experience during the days leading to your trip.
I haven’t given up my quest for a refund, but now, not only I want my money back I would like to bring back home the Koh-i-noor too.
It's very sad that you and your family had to go throught this. I was in the same boat two years back. They even fingerprint you during the transit and they have special baggage scan at India when you return. But you know what things have changed. No body cares now for them when they come to visit India. This December when I was at domestic airport(small city), the porter came to me rather than going to a firang lady. Reason : desis give more tips now, like give 100/200Rs and the goras pay 1 USD :) and they know the maths.
Other incident, before boarding , a firang missed her baggage tag and when security lady asked for it, this firang was fuming and said it's their mistake. Now this lady cop, in her simple English said, Madam, please get out of this line, go to security check again, and get the tags, otherwise you won't be able to board the plane.
No one treats them as VIP any more back in India.
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bigboy007
10-03 06:44 PM
I made a service req on sept 6 and they opened it on Sept 30 and assigned it to an officer. They enquired took detailsof my fedex , etc. and now they sent a letter. Just summary "wait wait wait still we need to key in " huh i think many of us will have same fate even after doing all this but i am not giving it up lets do something rather than nothing.
Raju
06-29 04:12 PM
This is like playing with people's minds. I really dont care at this point if I get my GC or not. I hope people who create this kind of havoc die a rotten death.:mad:
Macaca
12-05 05:36 PM
AMY GOODMAN: But let me give you one more clip, and that is around the issue of the Minutemen.
LOU DOBBS: Sure.
AMY GOODMAN: This was the Minuteman Project, organizers calling their effort a peaceful protest over the government�s failure to secure its borders. Both the Mexican government and the Bush administration have described the Minutemen as vigilantes. You have been a vocal supporter.
LOU DOBBS: I just want to be clear to the Journal and to this audience: I support the Minuteman Project and the fine Americans who make it up and all they�ve accomplished, fully, relentlessly and proudly.
AMY GOODMAN: That�s you, Lou.
LOU DOBBS: That�s me.
AMY GOODMAN: Bill Parmley, a Minuteman leader in Goliad County in Texas, quit the group because of, what he described, widespread racism. Another Texas Minuteman, Janet Ahrens, had resigned because members, she said, wanted to �shoot the taco meat.� You never mentioned either of these people. Why not talk about these people quitting, because they�re concerned about how racist this group is?
LOU DOBBS: Well, frankly, I didn�t know about it. I don� think it�s�what makes them so newsworthy? And secondly, the reality is, the President called the Minutemen vigilantes immediately after they were formed. The idea that I would support volunteerism and the nature of the call to security on the border, I hope, doesn�t stun you too much, because the reality, again, is that there has never been an incident of violence involving the Minuteman organization, period. Do you want to take note of that?
AMY GOODMAN: Are you concerned with, among others, one of the founders of the Minutemen being found with a gun, patrolling the border; issues like these? This is of concern, when there are so many immigrants who are found in the desert dead, not clear why they die.
LOU DOBBS: Oh, are you implying that the Minutemen are killing them?
AMY GOODMAN: No. But just�
LOU DOBBS: Then why would you say such a thing?
AMY GOODMAN: My question is�
LOU DOBBS: That�s terrible, Amy. I mean, good Lord!
AMY GOODMAN: My question is, when�
LOU DOBBS: Let�s answer one question: has there ever been a single incident of violence recorded on the part of the Minutemen on the border?
AMY GOODMAN: I believe�wasn�t there�
LOU DOBBS: There has never been.
AMY GOODMAN: I�m not�haven�t there been cases of immigrants who come over the border, who have been chased, who have been shot at, who have been beaten?
LOU DOBBS: That would be an incident of violence. That would be an incident of violence, wouldn�t it? To my knowledge, there has never been an incident of violence on the part of the Minutemen.
AMY GOODMAN: But the idea of armed men on the border�
LOU DOBBS: Oh, come on!
AMY GOODMAN: �not authorized by the United States?
LOU DOBBS: Does it bother you that there are armed drug cartel members firing on law enforcement officers on the border, killing Mexican citizens, US citizens?
JUAN GONZALEZ: Absolutely.
LOU DOBBS: Does any of this bother you?
JUAN GONZALEZ: Absolutely does, yes.
LOU DOBBS: I would hope to heck it bothers you. Why would the Minutemen even be under discussion by comparison to that issue?
LOU DOBBS: Sure.
AMY GOODMAN: This was the Minuteman Project, organizers calling their effort a peaceful protest over the government�s failure to secure its borders. Both the Mexican government and the Bush administration have described the Minutemen as vigilantes. You have been a vocal supporter.
LOU DOBBS: I just want to be clear to the Journal and to this audience: I support the Minuteman Project and the fine Americans who make it up and all they�ve accomplished, fully, relentlessly and proudly.
AMY GOODMAN: That�s you, Lou.
LOU DOBBS: That�s me.
AMY GOODMAN: Bill Parmley, a Minuteman leader in Goliad County in Texas, quit the group because of, what he described, widespread racism. Another Texas Minuteman, Janet Ahrens, had resigned because members, she said, wanted to �shoot the taco meat.� You never mentioned either of these people. Why not talk about these people quitting, because they�re concerned about how racist this group is?
LOU DOBBS: Well, frankly, I didn�t know about it. I don� think it�s�what makes them so newsworthy? And secondly, the reality is, the President called the Minutemen vigilantes immediately after they were formed. The idea that I would support volunteerism and the nature of the call to security on the border, I hope, doesn�t stun you too much, because the reality, again, is that there has never been an incident of violence involving the Minuteman organization, period. Do you want to take note of that?
AMY GOODMAN: Are you concerned with, among others, one of the founders of the Minutemen being found with a gun, patrolling the border; issues like these? This is of concern, when there are so many immigrants who are found in the desert dead, not clear why they die.
LOU DOBBS: Oh, are you implying that the Minutemen are killing them?
AMY GOODMAN: No. But just�
LOU DOBBS: Then why would you say such a thing?
AMY GOODMAN: My question is�
LOU DOBBS: That�s terrible, Amy. I mean, good Lord!
AMY GOODMAN: My question is, when�
LOU DOBBS: Let�s answer one question: has there ever been a single incident of violence recorded on the part of the Minutemen on the border?
AMY GOODMAN: I believe�wasn�t there�
LOU DOBBS: There has never been.
AMY GOODMAN: I�m not�haven�t there been cases of immigrants who come over the border, who have been chased, who have been shot at, who have been beaten?
LOU DOBBS: That would be an incident of violence. That would be an incident of violence, wouldn�t it? To my knowledge, there has never been an incident of violence on the part of the Minutemen.
AMY GOODMAN: But the idea of armed men on the border�
LOU DOBBS: Oh, come on!
AMY GOODMAN: �not authorized by the United States?
LOU DOBBS: Does it bother you that there are armed drug cartel members firing on law enforcement officers on the border, killing Mexican citizens, US citizens?
JUAN GONZALEZ: Absolutely.
LOU DOBBS: Does any of this bother you?
JUAN GONZALEZ: Absolutely does, yes.
LOU DOBBS: I would hope to heck it bothers you. Why would the Minutemen even be under discussion by comparison to that issue?
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