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  • smuggymba
    09-10 01:05 PM
    So, I guess all EB3's with a PD before 2007 should be in a very good shape. No doubt GC is the best but at least they have EAD's and their spouse can work, which I think is a great thing.

    The real issue is with post 2007 EB3 filers, correct me if I'm wrong. It seems that prior to 2007, EB2/3 are almost in the same situation. EAD is much better than visa and of course GC is the king. Thanks.





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  • sathyaraj
    03-07 12:16 PM
    I have sent the required employment letter to my HR. Let me see whrther they will sign it or not. I am hoping for the best. I have waited long to change my employer. It have been with them for almost 7 yrs. I am hoping for a big change.

    The funny thing is that they are doing my H1B transfer, but still worried about this letter. The HR contact I have does not have much idea about these H1b/Gc process. He gets scared for everything.

    Hopefully everything would work out well.





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  • GCard_Dream
    03-18 05:57 PM
    The line "But those extra numbers would need to be made available to China/India applicants on an equal basis" made me confused. I guess the statement above would still be true if India and China had equal number of pending cases with similar PDs then both countries would have received equal number of unused visas. I missed that fact that visa allocation was by PD. Thanks for the clarification.

    Please see the last sentece which says "Thus, the same cut-off date for each country since the extra numbers must be made available in priority date order without regard to country".

    When they use this spill over, only PD is imp not the country.





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  • sanju
    02-13 03:23 PM
    Why do you want to delete this thread? This is true. The witch hunt has started. Why be scared to say the truth?


    .


    FYI .. This post is what I received in e-mail few days back.

    I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
    the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
    legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.

    While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
    It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
    storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
    USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
    foreign professionals'.

    Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
    such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
    Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.

    How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?

    Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
    delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.

    With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
    forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
    employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
    US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
    large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).

    Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
    do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
    in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
    'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
    economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
    ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
    question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.

    These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
    not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
    (companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.

    Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
    Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
    what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
    Then your employer fires you....

    There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
    with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
    that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
    In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
    way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.

    Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
    software professional.

    Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
    provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.

    The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
    person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
    ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
    US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
    out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
    in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
    of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
    are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
    These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.

    This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
    in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
    This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
    of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.

    What should the USCIS do?

    Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
    employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
    everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
    with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
    tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
    H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.

    What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?

    Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
    98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
    in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
    targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
    to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.

    Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
    this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
    sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
    for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.

    Confident and free people contribute positively:
    If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
    will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
    hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
    and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
    to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
    not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
    economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.

    Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
    is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
    getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
    driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....

    God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.

    Thanks.



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  • vandanaverdia
    09-11 06:09 PM
    "The difference between the impossible and the possible lies in a person's determination."
    Tommy Lasorda

    Only YOU can convince yourself to do what is right for you right now. The time now is to march to DC!!!
    Help IV help you....
    GO IV!!!!





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  • thomachan72
    04-11 09:32 AM
    Before taking up any agenda, check with IV core whether it is the right time.

    If it was the right time, why wouldn't IV core initiate any action items when members are so willing to take up those ?

    I think Suhail raised a verry valid point. However, to recapture unused visa numbers might not just be an administrative fix. it would require a law being passed just for that and that then becomes a whole different issue.
    We know visa numbers have been wasted but can we persuade and get a majority vote on a legislation that would recapture unused visa numbers?? That to me is a mighty big task in itself.... just like raising the country limits.
    I am certainly not discouraing anybody....
    On the other hand, is there any legal issue involved that could be fought in a court of law?? Since there were more applications pending than the allowed anual limit why were not sufficient numbers of visas issued? was it because there was a per country limit?? If that is true they can simply say unless the per country limit is removed they cannot issue more numbers to India/china.
    Personally, I therefore feel more inclined to fight for these:-
    1) Taking of the per country limits (toughest one)
    2) Allowing change of status application irrespective of availability of visa numbers
    3) Allowing for H1b stamping from within the US
    4) premium processing of I-140



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  • ganguteli
    04-07 11:38 AM
    You keep posting the same thing over and over again. I remember some questions some of the members asked you and I guess you conveniently ignored it.

    Let me remind you those questions.
    1) Why did you not contribute to the funding drive?
    2) If IV core team agrees to work on everything you want, what are you willing to do? What will be your contribution in terms of time, effort and money?

    If you have a plan where we can make something happen, please make a detailed document on how you are planning to achieve the objectives and send it to info@immigrationvoice.com. If you plan makes any sense, I'm sure core will be happy to work with you.

    Well said.
    Sometime back he was posting over and over about housing and that he has 6 houses.
    Now its about recapture and country limits.
    I guess we should just leave such people alone and do not respond to them. If a person has incomplete or fake profile/has not contributed and has lot of reds, he cannot be taken seriously because all this means he does not care for IV.





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  • pkak
    07-13 11:45 AM
    They have no reason to pull the dates back. Most 2004, 2005, part 2006 people got to apply during the july07 fiasco. In the past, they have pulled the dates back if new applications flooded in when they pushed the dates up.
    USCIS will process in the following order now
    1. Pull out cases based on PD, review then approve/deny/RFE
    2. While waiting for RFE, process the next based on PD
    3. IF the RFE response window is outside of this fiscal, they will re-allocate the visa number to another approvable case.

    They will manage to process about 20k cases approving as many as possible by Sep30th2008.

    Therefore, only those with pending RFEs will be delayed into next year.

    USCIS is not all that inefficient or incompetent, not sure about DOS (to be fair, the Visa Office seems to have got its act together in the recent months)


    Where the visa numbers in Oct'08 will be will depend on how proactive IV is.

    Here is my take on the situation.

    DOS said that they used up 80% of EB numbers in first 3 quarters of Fiscal year '08, that leaves 28K (20% of 140K) visas available for last quarter of Fiscal year '08.

    Since higher priority categories are already current, this means that most of these visas have to be used by EB2 India/China.

    Hence DOS made it an option for USCIS to issue another 25K visas to EB2 India/China.

    See my analysis:

    I agree

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by justAnotherFile
    i believe the argument that this sudden jump was made to help eb2 china is pure hogwash.


    Scanning the FLC database, 5978 Indian Labor applicants with Level III/IV wage rates benefit with this jump, vs 761 Labor applicants from China.

    Assuming one labor approval generates 2.5 AOS applications, and dividing the total AOS applications by 2 (attrition, I-140 denials, EB3 cases etc), approx 15K Indians benefit, vs <2K people from China.

    Add to this 04/01/2004-03/27/2005 Indian applicants whose labor cases were adjudicated by Backlog Centers (approx 6000 Level III/IV applications , assuming same ball-park as 5853 similar India applicants certified in Fiscal year 2006), approx 7.5K more Indian�s will benefit.)

    If USCIS uses these 25K visas, then in Oct'08, they get the first quarter allocation for Fiscal year '09, and my calculation shows that EB2 India/China will move to atleast Jul 1, 06 (based on 627 India/China Level III/IV labor approvals forthat period).

    If USCIS lets the 25K visas to go waste, then in Oct'08, PDs will move back to mid 04.



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  • anilsal
    12-12 09:37 AM
    Nobody knows whether congressional action is needed to allow I-485 to be filed during retrogression?





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  • Slumdog
    01-17 03:07 PM
    Xyzgc, Relax out there. You are taking it very personal. For you this may be bulshitting but in tough economic times
    Like this my story might be a reality for lot of people or could very well face in coming days & months. I put out my experience out there so people will read & be cautious & use their good judgement. I am happy for you that you were able to make all right decisions in your life. Let others read & decide what is best for them.



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  • hiralal
    06-08 10:19 PM
    You might get your GC while you are at the retirement home....
    that seems to be the idea. I meet lot of senior retired people from India ..they say they got their GC's at the age of 60 (through family) ..they get so bored and disappointed that they just go back and give up their GC's ..so yes I agree, think that you are on temporary visa, earn as much as you can and have 1 suitcase packed and ready to leave.





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  • texcan
    01-22 06:48 PM
    Great discussion here, its great to see prospective from many folks.
    Wonderful insights.


    Saggi13
    Man great venting.

    Here is a question for you and for all of us in similiar circumstances. you got to ask a question.....what will make you happy. You took a great step in buying the house not because of any reason other than "you wanted your daughter needed some place to play". You took the decision, made a choice....Now you should be happy for you did what you deened important for you and you did it.
    Now things went bad after buying a house, but overall you choose to buy this and that should make you happy.

    Nothing personal Sagi13...your write was excellent about changes with in 9 months. It will all work out for you.


    I read somewhere "happiness is in action". Its far more easier to ask sorry for something done, than to repent for something left undone.

    For me what has worked so far is trying to stay out of Rat Race, and this too by choice.
    I choose not to waste money on new cars, not my type, i refuse to judge people by the cars they drive. i have driven decent cars, but never paid a penny to anyone on car loan interest. So will i do for a house, god willing.
    i make sure to spend a lot of time with family and friends, and real time spend relaxing, enjoying sun ...walks in morning.

    i did spend a lot of money this last year on soft factors/family and friends...more than 10K ...i choose to do so; and i am happy so far.
    This may not be a big amount for someone, and this expense could have been avoided but we choose to spend it, fine no issues.

    My belief is, one got to make peace with one self, past is past ..and stop comparisons
    We all make mistakes, i make more mistakes than my fair share of "1" a day...

    Remember "we are spritual beings having human experiences". T

    Here is another good line i try to remember always, think about what do you want...lets say GC.

    Imagine you got GC today....now what will you do differently than what you are doing today. what change will GC bring to you as a person ( forget other crazy ideas we have created in our minds.....like help in job, realizing american dream, and please Donot cite reasons like it will be easier to travel/get a job. )
    If you donot have any solid differences in your life...after getting a GC...then my friend you are in Rat Race.


    This American dream is a bull ....by marketers, this is a dream for everyone on this planet, and most achieve it....by having a space where they can relax not by owning something....ownership is perceived notion. How can owning a piece of wood and concrete help anyone??



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  • iv_only_hope
    02-21 04:21 PM
    I guess one worst case scenario would be EB1 and EB2 row using upto 39,000 visas each. Then the 140k/ year wait for India and china would extend to eternity





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  • pbuckeye
    02-09 10:46 AM
    i guess he is talking about your case a)...
    although it might be his own opinion which could be wrong but seems from his forums he does tell you valid points time to time....

    and he does post some useful data (remember the recent backlog data he posted before they officially released it).

    anyway, why be so skeptical, don't we watch all the Superbowl ads but only buy the beer we like ;)



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  • .soulty
    03-11 11:39 PM
    Ok guys Poll is up! :)

    I didnt include the wires on the poll since there was a character restriction.. the wires are for those interested in how the scene was created.


    Wireframes:

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    Thirdworldman: wireframe (http://www.inmod.com/casey/subway_wire.jpg)


    All the renders looks great, great job everyone...:thumb:

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  • GCVivek
    03-21 02:50 PM
    Consultants end up being cheaper for companies. Much cheaper! No labor tax, no payroll tax, no health insurance (over $500), no any insurance, no contributions to 401K and many more expenses. Plus $12K and then what? You will leave the firm in 6 months. Plus you cannot say that ONLY they got their worth from your services. They paid you what you are worth too! Right?

    Green card processing costs only $12000 max..Its not a big deal for such big companies.They just dont want to do the favor.
    getting green card itself takes min 10 years. so you r going to stick on to this company until that time. is that not a gaurantee. working for 10 years with same company.
    you know y consulting companies file green card immediately. they do that becos the employee will stay with the company for a while.American companies do not realize this.
    one of my friend came back to compny as a consultant. now they are paying two times more than what they were oaying him as full time employee. is that not an expense to the company...why they r paying him that much now , instead they should have filed his green card.



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  • sweet_jungle
    02-20 12:59 AM
    How come these people do not get caught during H-1 approval process or during visa stamping at consulate or maybe later during GC process?

    [QUOTE=chanduv23]Thats a new trend. They go to colleges and meet a group of Indian students who are about to graduate and take them out of drinks and dinner and give a presentation about their company. Then when these students come into OPT status, they are all given food + guest house accomodation. Then they are put under intense training for 2 to 3 months and made to do some mockup projects. Then their resumes are massaged with 4 to 5 years of experience ie experience from date they graduated in the under graduation and their MS education is stripped off on their resumes.





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  • Jaime
    09-10 02:28 PM
    You want to buy a house, but can't - You don't want that commitment in case you get laid off and put "out of status" and forced to immediately leave the United States or face deportantion (and yeah, you need to leave all your Social Security payments and patents behind)





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  • mallu
    02-27 09:35 PM
    http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4398

    So, those who done their FP in July 2007 or afterwards will have their FP refreshed. So they don't need to go for FP once the previous FP expires. All those who did FP prior to July 2007 will have to go to ASC for FP .





    goel_ar
    08-08 09:47 AM
    I work at one of these companies & they applied for my GC.





    webm
    03-17 01:14 PM
    Category: EB3 India
    PD: Oct 2001
    140 AD:Sep,2005
    485 RD:06/25/2007



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