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  • Eternal_Hope
    03-09 04:47 PM
    Both 1A and 2A category for Family Based (sons, daughters, spouse - of citizens and green card holders) has better dates (15th Aug 02, 15th Aug 2004) than EB-2 India, and EB-3 India.

    This is so preposterous, words cannot even begin to describe this absurdity.

    So those of us who have been in U.S. for almost a decade, have been contributing to this society, and have held our life in constant limbo, are being given a lower priority than those who are still back in their own country and living a happy life and who can now immigrate to U.S. based on family immigration.

    Do the lawmakers have no common sense left atall??





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  • PresidentO
    03-10 01:31 PM
    I have been lurking on this forum to understand the plight of EB immigrants and the posts the last few weeks have confirmed my belief that the problem exist because a lot of people came to the US from 1999-2006 and want to stay here permanently. The EB immigration system was fine before then; thus, the problem is supply/demand, not the immigration policies.

    Let me guess. You are brother/sister of Ron Hira who is in bed with programmers guild and who wants to shut the golden door as soon as he is done. Ron and ilk would never say that they/their parent's stole an American job. They are all genuine and we are all fraud. If you can stay permanently, We can too. Cut the crap! Kid

    You showed your two big foot in your mouth by saying that immigration policy has nothing to do with this and this is purely supply/demand. Whom are you trying to kid? Supply and demand changed because the immigration policy changed. H1B visas were increased from 65K to 195K, without a increase in the GC numbers. Folks on the hill made businesses happy by increasing the H1B numbers and did not care a rat's ass about how the increase will choke the GC system. The effect is compounded with 245i and USCIS inefficiency. But the root cause is policy that did not encompass all aspects of Employment based immigration.

    You moron! People just did not come here night over night flying on their wings. It is the policy stupid that created the supply/demand problem. You don't need to lurk and then lash out by taking a conversation out of context. The guy who quoted the 2A was just quoting the retrogression times in EB and FB and was pointing out the absurdity. Of all the people, you thought EB folks dont care about family and unification issues. Yeah right! What else you gotta spit?





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  • guy03062
    11-11 07:49 PM
    This is great find. I am not sure why IV leadership (as an advocacy group) is not pursuing this to USCIS leadership as they are in touch with them regularly for other issues. Are we missing something here?

    Under the regulation No reference to Calendar year. It mentions explicitly calendar quarter.

    Immigration and Nationality Act: Section ACT 202 - Numerical Limitation to any single foreign state under Sec. 202. [8 U.S.C. 1152]
    (3) Exception if additional visas available. - If because of the application of paragraph (2) with respect to one or more foreign states or dependent areas, the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) of section 203 for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who otherwise may be issued such a visa, paragraph (2) shall not apply to visas made available to such states or areas during the remainder of such calendar quarter.
    (5) 2/ RULES FOR EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS
    (A) EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter.
    (B) LIMITING FALL ACROSS FOR CERTAIN COUNTRIES SUBJECT TO SUBSECTION (e)- In the case of a foreign state or dependent area to which subsection (e) applies, if the total number of visas issued under section 203(b) exceeds the maximum number of visas that may be made available to immigrants of the state or area under section 203(b)consistent with subsection (e) (determined without regard to this paragraph),in applying subsection (e) all visas shall be deemed to have been required for the classes of aliens specified in section 203(b).





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  • conundrum
    11-06 11:54 AM
    Hi,

    Can somebody paste the sample letter that needed to be sent because I cant open in office.

    Thanks,
    brawn.

    FOIA Request for number of pending Employment based AOS/I-485 Applications

    John Doe,
    200 Main Street,
    Chicago,IL,60001

    National Records Center, FOIA/PA Office
    U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
    P. O. Box 648010
    Lee�s Summit, MO 64064-8010

    Dear FOIA officer,

    Several Employment based categories have been retrogressed for 4 years now and the exact number of pending AOS applications sorted by priority dates in the employment-based category is unknown. Department of state has been establishing the cut off in priority dates based on educated guesses and approximations. DOS and none of the Employment based applicants know the number of applications pending per category, per country sorted by priority dates. DOS visa office expressed same concern in Oct 08 bulletin.

    �Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined.�

    This information would be helpful in determining the priority dates accurately and in determining when a visa number will be available for a given priority date in a certain category. I request you to provide me with the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved/denied) sorted by priority date from 2001 on a yearly basis broken down for each of the following country and category. (Not the combined total of pending EB AOS applications altogether)

    EB-2 China : Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now

    EB-2 India: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now.

    EB-3 China: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now.
    EB-3 India: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now.

    EB-3 Mexico: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now.

    EB-3 Phillippines: Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now.

    EB-3 Rest of the world : Number of employment based AOS applications pending with USCIS sorted by priority date on a yearly basis from year 2001 till now

    Thanks,
    John Doe.



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  • clockwork
    08-07 12:06 AM
    Type 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007

    EB1-All 41,672 34,168 14,453 31,291 64,731 36,960 26,697
    EB2-All 42,550 44,316 15,406 32,534 42,597 21,911 44,162
    EB3-All 85,847 88,002 46,415 85,969 129,070 89,922 85,030
    EB-All 179,195 174,968 82,137 155,330 246,878 159,081 155,889

    EB1-I 3,543 2,820 1,266 2,998 6,336 3,156 2,855
    EB2-I 21,355 21,310 8,536 16,262 16,687 3,720 6,203
    EB3-I 16,339 17,354 10,647 19,889 23,250 3,006 17,795
    EB-I 41,720 41,919 20,818 39,496 47,160 17,358 26,853

    Overall EB3 has got more numbers than EB2 in last 7 years for all and india specific grouping.

    Hi Sachug22,
    Some of the data you specified does not add up well. For example 2006 India, EB-total is 17,358 but 3,156+3,720+3,006 adds upto 9882.

    Any idea?

    Type 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007

    EB1-All 41,672 34,168 14,453 31,291 64,731 36,960 26,697
    EB2-All 42,550 44,316 15,406 32,534 42,597 21,911 44,162
    EB3-All 85,847 88,002 46,415 85,969 129,070 89,922 85,030
    EB-All 179,195 174,968 82,137 155,330 246,878 159,081 155,889

    EB1-I 3,543 2,820 1,266 2,998 6,336 3,156 2,855
    EB2-I 21,355 21,310 8,536 16,262 16,687 3,720 6,203
    EB3-I 16,339 17,354 10,647 19,889 23,250 3,006 17,795
    EB-I 41,720 41,919 20,818 39,496 47,160 17,358 26,853


    Thanks





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    07-09 03:11 PM
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  • anurakt
    12-30 07:49 PM
    Updated wikipedia for immigration definition
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration#External_links

    Please see the external links section.





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  • BharatPremi
    09-26 10:22 AM
    Dear Editor and Eilene Zimmerman,

    I am very sad to inform you that this article is completely misleading readers about the rally organized by legal immigrants (Employment Based immigration catgory) .

    Article tells 'Last week 1,000 protestors-mostly legal immigrants-drew attention to the situation of highly skilled foreigners who want to work for companies in the U.S. by marching on Capitol Hill.'

    But in reality this march /rally was organized to protest Burocratic delays enforced by USCIS on applicants of Permanent residency who are suffering long delays since years. These legal immigrants, following every law and process dot able to see their Green Cards even after waiting 4 to 6 years, with some of them having rotted in queue since last 8 to 9 yeras.

    I would request writer and you to have more information about the rally from the rally organizers (http://immigrationvoice.org) and publicly accept this arror and implement correction.

    Thanks.

    - XXXX



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  • GC_SUCK
    08-15 11:03 PM
    I am wondering what part RD will paly in this new visa bulletin. In may case, I have PD of April 2002 (EB3-ROW) but RD of March 2007.

    I guess they will still go by RD and I have to wait for 5-6 months. Please correct me If I am wrong?



    That is because the quota system does not apply as well in the 4th quarter of each year. Thats the explanation previously given. EB India has to hope for the end of each fiscal year for some magic to happen.
    EB ROW, please be patient it will be all yours after Oct. 2007 for the next 9 months.:)
    Those EB India stuck in 485.................it is either now or next year summer. If you don't see yours by Sep't, unless you have a PD pre go into hibernation and wake up in June or July 2008, you might find better luck at that time.





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  • Abhinaym
    07-03 11:16 AM
    Taking a benefit of one group, then distribute the pain across the board is not fair to ROW applicants. This is not the solution. You cannot say to us ROW people that we don't understand the fustration of waiting for our GC as well.
    I think its ridiculous that some family takes up to 4 GC from the EB GC pool, why don't you make a petition to state that only EB GC goes to EB primary applicant while your family takes up family based GC. Unless your wife and kids are hired to work as the rest of us, them taking EB based GC is unfair to the rest of us who don't have a family.

    The point is to not 'distribute pain', it is to reduce the pain of a group.

    Again, even though the benefits may go to one 'group', let me tell you that it is not a formal group and just as all ROW applicants are not one group, non-ROW applicants too are individuals and IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ONE INDIVIDUAL HOW MUCH OTHERS GOT BENEFITED.

    So your point of saying that one group is benefited is irrelevant, because GCs aren't given to groups and only to individual applicants.

    Your other point is absolutely right! Family should not be counted, and I'm in 100% agreement with that!



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  • chanduv23
    12-15 11:20 AM
    gcisadawg,
    Very well said. What you said, also gives strength to my point. We are self proclaimed "highly skilled" workers. We shouldn't have been trained, we shouldn't have been air lifted by desi consultants. We shouldn't have been sold for short/long term projects after coming to the US.

    Actually, during 1999-2000 year, when I was about to graduate from IIT, yes, my class mates used to receive calls from Microsoft based in Seattle and Phillips based in Holland. Those companies paid final year graduating students (with good track record), a return trip to Seattle for interview. That was the real demand! And mind you, those students were very talented. They already had secured 100% aid from excellent US universities. So, it was a scenario of good company taking interest in excellent students and then filing for H1-B and subsequently green card. Can you imagine, Microsoft getting a RFE from USCIS to show "ability to pay"! We have so many people yelling on these forums because companies do not have the ability to pay to these "highly skilled workers".

    I can go on and on.....

    I do not agree with anyone who claims that we are really "required" here. We are fighting to survive here and we are fighting to get Green Cards. We have 50 million hate groups in the US that do not like us at all. It is a tough road ahead !

    It is not about demand and supply - these two things can never me matched in the best possible way. remember - H1b and GC are typically platforms provided by US govt towards bringing in talent and workers and fill in gaps and keep the competitive spirit and keep US always the best country in the world.

    If there is demand - there is demand. Period. if there is supply there is supply. Period. Supply can come from anywhere. Demand cane arise from anywhere. For eg.. An IITian need not necessarily be the best candidate to fill a spot in a X company in North Dakota and a MSFT need not necessarily be the only company to go abroad and find candidates ONLY from ivyleague.

    I know so many people who are from IIT and work for desi companies - they get good salary and are happy.

    Just go back and think about the best professor you had in your college. If you think that he must get a GC because he is very intelligent - youare wrong. On another note - if the same professor feels he must get a GC, he may probably pay a desi body shop , learn SAP and get an IT job come here - then he may rather go back to his ways of teaching if he wanted to do it again.

    What I am trying to say is - there is no point in discussing about demand, supply, talent, whether we are required or not, we must look at ourselves - whether we want what we want. If we want what we want - we must work towards it - unfortunately our community thinks - we are/are not entitled - and have so many discussions. There are people who do what it takes to get what they want - and they may use body shops or whatever they can to navigate the system. There are people who think others will help them and now a lot of people think Obama will come to their house personally to give them a GC.





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  • abhishek101
    06-15 11:36 AM
    as a 501(3)(C) organization immigration voice has is limited in its efforts to contribute for any cause, while it can spend a max of 30 % (lawyers please comment) on Advocacy but it cannot do political campaigns openly, if people want to contribute and defeat Sen Grassley they need a 501(4) type of non profit.



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  • mrane1
    03-15 06:30 PM
    C'mon guys, what the hell have you been doing for so long?

    I mean look at the archived Visa Bulletins, you observe the following:

    1. EB2 was current for India ALL THROUGH 2003
    2. EB2 was current for India ALL THROUGH 2004
    3. EB2 was current for India till August 2005
    4. After the retrogression in 2005, EB2 India moved up quickly through 2003-2004 to April 2004 by the beginning of 2007

    5. Even after the summer 2007 fiasco (EB2 Current fro July, August 2007), the priority date for EB2 India moved to April 2004 and stayed there for 3 months

    What more do you wish for?
    I don't understand how there any can be anyone from 2004-2005 India still left in the EB2 category.

    This is pathetic. What the hell have you been waiting for?

    Dude, No one has been waiting on purpose! Do you even have a clue what was going on in 2002/03/04/05... Even though numbers were current the Labor process used to take 3-4 years! If your labor is not clear then having 485 current is not going to do much... The perm process was started in 2005!Just consider yourself lucky that atleast you have an organization like IV working for you and they was instrumental in gettin atleast EAD for you and your spouse!!





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  • desi3933
    03-11 11:02 AM
    The problem with this guy is he has got his GC and now he doesn't want anybody to have it. Basically he enjoys when people are having of pain. That's the reason he doesn't want any progress in PD's. Dude, if you don't like if people are talking about positve things such as "PD becomes Current" then my humble request to you is just stay-out of any converstations.


    See here this guy is also saying the same thing what my lawyer has predicted.
    http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28881#post28881

    Hey Joker -

    I joined IV 5 years after getting my GC. Please look at my 900+ posts and pull out one (just one) that justify your stupid thoughts.

    If that's make you happy - PD will be current next month. Now start dreaming again.

    -- desi3933



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  • qesehmk
    02-08 08:24 PM
    Frankly I think that this lawyer is just posting provocative material to make himself popular. He has made many predictions and number of "useful" analysis in the past, most of which were found to be untrue. I used to read his posts until recently I figured out that the analysis was unreliable. This is just my opinion.

    I am tempted to think the same way ... although I am not sure.

    By the way .... I don't understand the difference between unused and wasted. If I am not wrong, waste happens when a) visa number is issued and is never used in a fiscal year. b) visa numbers are available but USCIS isn't able to produce enough demand.





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  • psaxena
    11-17 06:25 PM
    And you are a perfect desi... who wants to get everything without giving anything and to add on to that provoke others and distract them.

    Nothing is free, and nothing will happen over night. It takes time and political to get these things done.

    Think for a second ..
    how many members are there on IV = More than 30000
    How many donate = less than 200 give or take
    How many yell and suggest and expect that core will leave everything and start working on the suggestion = Everyone

    Now if you are in this situation , where you are not even responsible to do anything for anyone(like desi politician)... would you even do what IV is doing? No, forget that you won't even think of creating IV.

    So you know my next sentence.. keep it low and be out .. or sober up and get in line and be the one to do the right thing so that you can look into your eyes in the mirror next time.




    IV is acting like a desi politician.. paisa do and shut up..we know what we are doing....they refuse to even entertain such alternate remedies.

    like i had said in my earlier post.. If you pay a BYTCH.. she will sing what you want to hear..hence the fake promises of CIR being a reality..and all.. (remember that 588x bill fiasco) and NOW we know..from the horses mouth.. CIR is dead for the near foreseeable future.

    So i think we should pursue alternate reliefs with immediate effect.

    just my 2cents.



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  • BlueSunD
    03-11 12:23 AM
    I�m really sorry. I uploaded the wrong image, now fixed. Tahnks for the remark soulty.

    Guess I better catch some sleep....:tired:





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  • sunny1000
    07-24 11:26 PM
    The below is the answer I got from my attorney.

    "You are right in stating there should be a employer letter, which would be required if we are filing the I-485 with an approved I-140. It would not be required if it is filed currently with the I-140, which is submitted with the employer letter."





    anilnag
    03-09 10:47 PM
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=324915#post324915

    Please contribute here so that we can end the guessing game and get realistic data on pending applications by each category and country. This will help us determine how fast VB may move in future.

    Thanks





    raydon
    12-13 11:33 AM
    Don't know whether to rely on the dates in the visa bulletin. My colleague who is EB3 China with a PD of 2004 got his I-485 approved recently. The dates on the visa bulletin show EB3 China to be June 2002. Wonder of wonders, that is the USCIS.

    Btw, I shook his hand, hoping that some of his incredible luck would rub off on me. Just kidding - it was to congratulate him on his newly attained freedom.:)



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